Minutes of CALICE Electronics Phone Meeting, 11/09/03 ===================================================== Present: Adam Baird, Paul Dauncey, Matthew Warren, Osman Zorba Minutes: Paul Matters arising: Paul contacted Saeed Taghavirad about the VME software interface but apparently the VME firmware is being written by Ed Freeman. He has not answered so Paul will contact him again and Adam will ask him to reply also. Adam has found Fujitsu pin-compatible memories to replace the obselete ones we had been assuming we would use. Bob Thompson should be told to order them asap in case there is a significant lead time. Adam has not yet ordered the ten 3m SCSI cables, but should do so soon. Layout status: Adam summarised the status in his web page at: http://www.te.rl.ac.uk/esdg/calice/testplan/index.htm They would like to aim to release the PCB for fabrication by Sept 30. However, as this is too late and incurs yet another month of delay into the project, then Paul said it had to be done two weeks earlier, even if it required them to work overtime. Due to the very late status, they will need to cut corners, for example they must not wait for all problem reports from CMS before proceeding. As the CMS board works to a large extent and the CALICE board does not need to last for many years, then we must not have yet more delay for minor iterations. Adam's web page also suggests setting up a crate with a CMS FED to get experience with downloading firmware, etc. This would be useful to learn the mechanics of loading the FPGAs and might allow some testing of the BE, but the FE differences are so great that it would not be worth the effort to try to develop FE code to work on a FED. This requires a loaned FED and a crate. There are five FEDs at RAL and one at IC, with another six in assembly. Adam has talked to John Coughlan who thinks we could borrow one of the five but this needs to be checked with Geoff Hall. [Note added after the meeting; Geoff has agreed to this.] The crate status is that CERN have the LHC crate order (including one for us) but they are lacking people to test them. Geoff told them we needed two urgently (including ours) and that they should test these asap. They are expected anytime now. Geoff has also ordered 6U conversion kits. It was agreed that the most sensible place to base this crate would be at RAL as the expertise and equipment is available there and that is where the first tests of the CALICE board will be done. However, as it is relatively movable, it would be possible to borrow it for short periods (~a week) for intensive tests at a University. Adam suggested that it might be worth buying a flash reader if being used outside RAL. BE status: Matt reported that he and DaveM had met at UCL a couple of weeks ago. They had suceeded in compiling all the existing BE code. Matt feels their understanding of the code is much better now, although there are still some gaps and obscure areas (such as the memory block). Matt has been tied up with Atlas work for several weeks and this will continue for another ~10 days. FE status: Osman has used the place-and-route successfully and checked the trigger delay unit functions on the IC demo board with the DCMs running at 160 MHz (i.e. x4 of the clock). He observes a phase difference between the incoming and outgoing clock which he doesn't understand. However, it should not be a problem for us and may even help with the metastate issue. The demo board is not fast enough to support the actual required 320 MHz. Osman will use the wishbone protocol for the inter-module communication within the FE and he has had a first go at implementing it. DAQ: Paul reported he has VME memory mapping, block transfer and interrupts working on the IC VME teststand. AOB: Matt raised the issue of the cost of the board assembly, as he had heard a high price for the CMS FED of around 5k per board. UCL recently had a board with 2 FPGAs on it made which costed 2k. Adam thought the CMS price was unlikely and might include NRE. The cost depends on how much of the assembly can be automated and the RAL DO should be able to send an electronic placement for the parts, which will keep the cost down. Adam estimated a ballpark of 2k each for prototypes (2 off) and 1k each for production (9 off). This compares with a total budget for each board of 6.1k (averaged over prototypes and production) with an NRE allocation of 5k overall. We have a small amount of headroom as the original budget for cables was 150 pounds x 100 cables = 15k as it was assumed we would need them custom-made. However, now the VFE-PCB is using the same 68-way SCSI connector, then we can use off-the-shelf cables which should be substantially cheaper. Also, we now only need around 70 cables (60 plus spares) rather than 100. Paul asked about who could go to the Paris meeting on Fri 26 Sep. Osman is not available and Matt does not have a passport. It was assumed DaveM will not be back at work by then, so only Paul and Adam can go. Matt and Osman should prepare some slides if they have something significant to show. It is important that we show up and give presentations at Paris as we are so critically late that we need to project confidence that the electronics will actually be built. Otherwise, there is a danger that they will go for an alternative solution and abandon the UK. It is also clear we will have to negotiate for a later date than March 2004 for the full system test as we cannot possibly make that deadline now. Next Meeting: RAL on Wednesday 1 October at 1pm.