#acl IDSSteerGroup:read,write IDSAcceleratorAdminGroup:read,write IDSAcceleratorGroup:read IDSUsersGroup:read All:read === Agenda === * Summary of CERN costing Workshop - AK. * Points for discussion * Specification of level 3 system interfaces. * Organisation of services. * Cost model for FFAG - NB. === Minutes === * AK gave summary of Costing Workshop. * Level 3 breakdown structure was discussed. Agreed on the level 3 systems being the proton driver; target, capture and decay (including the proton absorber); muon front-end; muon acceleration; and decay ring. Muon acceleration will be broken down into linac, RLA 1, RLA 2 and FFAG. * AK to draft an interface document giving the beam parameters and other key pieces of information to specify the interface between level 3 systems. * Discussed need for cost focal points (CFPs) i.e. people responsible for providing information that goes into the costing tool. This doesn't have to be one person per level 3 system but is more like one person per level 4 system. * Current list of CFPs are: * Proton Driver Front-End: Juergen Pozimski. * Proton Driver Acceleration: Jaroslaw Pasternak. * Muon Front-end: Chris Rogers. * Linac and RLAs: Ajit Kurup. * FFAG: Scott Berg, Neil Bliss. * Decay Rings: Norbert Collomb, David Kelliher. * AK and target people will have a meeting soon to discuss breakdown of target, capture, decay system and identification of CFPs. * Should get support from CERN to cost buildings and tunnels * Neil Bliss pointed out that there is expertise at Daresbury to do this and it would be useful to have a comparison with numbers from CERN. * Schedule as set out for EUROnu is * CERN review with AK and CFPs in June/July. * Close to final version of costing for the EUROnu report by end of December. * AK would like to have first version of level 4/5 breakdown done and have CFPs for all systems within 2 weeks. * Discussed services * Neil Bliss pointed out that slide 6 in AKs talk should be called Hardware and Services to eliminate confusion. * Current methodology is to have similar hardware and services grouped together for each level 3 system. Items requiring specialised hardware or services should list them under that subsystem. * Kirk !MacDonald pointed out that a quench protection system needs to be included. AK suggested having this as a separate subsystem for each level 3 system. * Neil Bliss showed work he has been doing on costing the FFAG. * Revised parameter list. * Revised layout and schematics. * Cost model. * Include capital and running costs. * Cost breakdown structure. * Next meeting will be in about 4 weeks time. === Files === <>