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&lt;pre&gt;
    * FFAG: Scott Berg, Neil Bliss.
    * Decay Rings: Norbert Collomb, David Kelliher.
   * AK and target people will have a meeting soon to discuss breakdown of target, capture, decay system and identification of CFPs.
+  * Should get support from CERN to cost buildings and tunnels
+   * Neil Bliss pointed out that there is expertise at Daresbury to do this and it would be useful to have a comparison with numbers from CERN.
   * Schedule as set out for EUROnu is
    * CERN review with AK and CFPs in June/July.
    * Close to final version of costing for the EUROnu report by end of December.
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&lt;pre&gt;
    * Neil Bliss pointed out that slide 6 in AKs talk should be called Hardware and Services to eliminate confusion.
    * Current methodology is to have similar hardware and services grouped together for each level 3 system.  Items requiring specialised hardware or services should list them under that subsystem.
    * Kirk !MacDonald pointed out that a quench protection system needs to be included.  AK suggested having this as a separate subsystem for each level 3 system.
+  * Neil Bliss showed work he has been doing on costing the FFAG.
+   * Revised parameter list.
+   * Revised layout and schematics.
+   * Cost model.
+   * Include capital and running costs.
+   * Cost breakdown structure.
   * Next meeting will be in about 4 weeks time.
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&lt;pre&gt;
   * Discussed services
    * Neil Bliss pointed out that slide 6 in AKs talk should be called Hardware and Services to eliminate confusion.
    * Current methodology is to have similar hardware and services grouped together for each level 3 system.  Items requiring specialised hardware or services should list them under that subsystem.
-   * Kirk MacDonald pointed out that a quench protection system needs to be included.  AK suggested having this as a separate subsystem for each level 3 system.
+   * Kirk !MacDonald pointed out that a quench protection system needs to be included.  AK suggested having this as a separate subsystem for each level 3 system.
-   * ...
+  * Next meeting will be in about 4 weeks time.
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&lt;pre&gt;
   * Cost model for FFAG - NB.
  
  === Minutes ===
- 
- 
+  * AK gave summary of Costing Workshop.
+  * Level 3 breakdown structure was discussed. Agreed on the level 3 systems being the proton driver; target, capture and decay (including the proton absorber); muon front-end; muon acceleration; and decay ring.  Muon acceleration will be broken down into linac, RLA 1, RLA 2 and FFAG.
+  * AK to draft an interface document giving the beam parameters and other key pieces of information to specify the interface between level 3 systems.
+  * Discussed need for cost focal points (CFPs) i.e. people responsible for providing information that goes into the costing tool.  This doesn't have to be one person per level 3 system but is more like one person per level 4 system.
+  * Current list of CFPs are:
+   * Proton Driver Front-End: Juergen Pozimski.
+   * Proton Driver Acceleration: Jaroslaw Pasternak.
+   * Muon Front-end: Chris Rogers.
+   * Linac and RLAs: Ajit Kurup.
+   * FFAG: Scott Berg, Neil Bliss.
+   * Decay Rings: Norbert Collomb, David Kelliher.
+  * AK and target people will have a meeting soon to discuss breakdown of target, capture, decay system and identification of CFPs.
+  * Schedule as set out for EUROnu is
+   * CERN review with AK and CFPs in June/July.
+   * Close to final version of costing for the EUROnu report by end of December.
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  === Agenda ===
-  * Summary of CERN costing Workshop.
+  * Summary of CERN costing Workshop - AK.
   * Points for discussion
    * Specification of level 3 system interfaces.
-   * Organisation of services. 
+   * Organisation of services.
+  * Cost model for FFAG - NB.
  
  === Minutes ===
  
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  === Agenda ===
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+  * Summary of CERN costing Workshop.
+  * Points for discussion
+   * Specification of level 3 system interfaces.
+   * Organisation of services. 
  
  === Minutes ===
  
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